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Kyle and her husband moved to Brookfield in 1986. She became active in local politics and started blogging in 2004. Her focus is primarily on local issues but often includes state and national topics, too. Kyle looks at things from the taxpayers’ perspective in a creative, yet down to earth way, addressing them from a practical point of view.

State funding & Elmbrook class size discussion Tuesday, Nov. 18, 1:30 - 3pm

By Kyle Prast
Sunday, Nov 16 2008, 10:21 PM

I almost missed this little notice, it was tucked away on page 27 of Thursday's Brookfield NOW:

Members of the Elmbrook community are invited to attend a discussion about the effect of state funding on class sizes.

If you are interested, come to the meeting at Brookfield Elementary School, 2530 North Brookfield Road. It is being held in the LGI room from 1:30 to 3pm on Tuesday, Nov. 18th.

Because of our large tax base, Elmbrook schools get the shorter end of the stick when it comes to state aids for our resident students. Late in October, I asked Bob Borch what Elmbrook's per student costs and state aids were. He replied:

Using the budget approved last week and the methodology the district uses for calculating per student cost, the property tax portion of the total per pupil cost of $12,311 would be $10,384, with another portion coming from state aid at $1,161 and the remainder from local and federal sources.

The state contributes more for Chapter 220 and Open enrollment students, however, there is the perception that these students often are more disruptive in the classroom and school. From Brookfield NOW, "Elmbrook receives between $10,000 and $12,000 per Chapter 220 student in state integration aid." I don't have the Open enrollment reimbursement handy, but it is around half that number.

Because costs continue to rise (teacher and administration wage and benefit packages, rising utilities, etc.), I think larger class sizes are coming. I believe many classes at the high school level are in a 18 - 22 student range. But some of our classes, like German 4 for example, are very small because they are more specialized. The school feels they have a responsibility to high school students who already took 3 years of a language and wish to complete their studies by graduation.  

I don't know how many specifics will be discussed on Tuesday, but certainly I will post any new information if I attend the meeting. 

 

Please, comment content should relate to the subject of the post. Although I try to respond to many, do not interpret my lack of a response as agreement.

Links: 

 

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Brookfield7, Fairly Conservative, Vicki Mckenna, Jay Weber, The Right View Wisconsin, Mark Levin, CNS News

 

Comments

Santa's Elf   

Seems to me that this is the perfect time for the school district to throw up its corporate hands and declare bankruptcy! No doubt we could interest 'nobody's senator but ours' to float us a few billion dollar bailout 'earmark'.

Shucks, we could air condition, double gym seating capacity and add boxes, fully embellish theaters, and provide the finest artificial turf for each and every field venue for both high schools.

What's better than freshly printed money, I ask you?

Kyle's reply: A bailout? Why didn't I think of that! ;-) 

November 16, 2008 11:05 PM

Cheri M.   

Do we notice that the meeting time of 1:30-3:00pm seems to preclude attendance as that is the time many parents are working, and others are either picking up their children from school, or preparing to greet them they hop off the school bus?

Kyle's reply: I was a little surprised at the time too, but I don't know that there is ever a good time. If more of these sessions are offered at other times, hopefully all will be able to attend that wish to? 

November 17, 2008 2:11 PM

Cheri M.   

Hi Kyle, those are good thoughts.  

Perhaps the alternate times would be 7:00-8:30am when many people are bringing their children to school or to the bus stop?  Or at a time which rivals school concerts, conferences, etc?

We have noticed the size of our daughter's classes increase over the years, ostensibly as "extra seats" were found for open enrollment.  One of our daughter's classes contains 33 students this year.  I *think* the max allowed is 35 students?  I believe the class sizes are approaching the max allowed?  If the district is planning increased class size as a budget-stretching strategy, it may be important to understand that this approach has already been in play for several years and therefore it's benefits may be nearly exhausted?

While I remain interested in the subject, after several years of juggling schedules to attend meetings many parents find the ill-scheduled meetings generally discourage parental input in other ways as well.  Often one finds that the one-way flow of information could have been accomplished with a simple paragraph or two included in any of the regular communications: school newsletters, The Link, city newsletter, district website.  Therefore, ironically, holding a meeting sometimes seems a way to graciously side-step the sharing of information.

Perhaps I will just wait a bit and read the news coverage of the meeting?  

Kyle's reply: Cheri, I think you more than gave at the HG&D meetings! 

November 18, 2008 8:02 AM

Cheri M.   

Yes, I and many others have spent hundreds of hours researching and in meetings over the past year for the Human Growth & Development issues.  May I say, being a member of a committee is a tad different than casual attendance at a meeting.  

Soon we will give of time, effort, and talent to the HGD parent advisory committee again.  Three 2-hour meetings are scheduled FOR ALL PARENTS AND INTERESTED PARTIES TO REVIEW THE ENTIRE k-12 CURRICULUM, OR ANY PORTIONS THEREOF.  Personally, I do not believe 6 hours is sufficient to review the entire k-12 curriculum including videos, DVDs, printed materials, etc, for this would imply 1/2 hour of instructional materials per grade level. Even viewing one video or DVD may use most or all of the time alloted.  More time has been requested of the district.  The district has also been asked to provide copies of the not-yet-approved high-level-outcomes as a check-off-list for matching each of the instructional materials to their proposed outcomes during the review.

Meeting dates and times will undoubtedly be announced by the district but if you'd like as much advance notice as possible, and not risk overlooking a tiny notice on an obscure page, here is the info board members and HGD parent advisory committee members have received:

Tue Dec9 4:30–6:30PM, Fri Dec12 1–3PM, Tue Jan6 8:30–10:30AM

Again, many parents may be working at these times. The second meeting may be especially difficult to attend as it also coincides with school dismissal. Special arrangements may need to be made in advance, juggling schedules to attend.  I hope many will find it to be worth the effort.

November 18, 2008 12:59 PM

kathryn   

There is not really a single time that's good for everyone.  Sometimes it seems there is no time that is good for anyone.

On the bright side, Cheri, I noticed that some of my comments to you made it into the HG&D recommendations, and the school board certainly took notice of strong opinions in the community.  Perhaps you have accomplished more than you think!

November 18, 2008 2:35 PM

Cheri M.   

Kathryn

Thank you for your kind words. Yes, I passed along input from a number of interested people who for various reasons could not attend meetings but felt comfortable sharing their thoughts with me.  In the process, my own thoughts evolved.  Meanwhile, my daughter remains opted out of HG&D... her choice... we study at home. We both like that.

November 18, 2008 10:36 PM

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