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Kyle and her husband moved to Brookfield in 1986. She became active in local politics and started blogging in 2004. Her focus is primarily on local issues but often includes state and national topics, too. Kyle looks at things from the taxpayers’ perspective in a creative, yet down to earth way, addressing them from a practical point of view.

McCain & Palin in Cedarburg: so close, yet so far away + pictures

By Kyle Prast
Sunday, Sep 7 2008, 12:26 AM

The phrase so close, yet so far away was never more true for me than yesterday. A friend asked on Thursday night if I was interested in going to Cedarburg Friday, That was just the nudge I needed. I said, yes!

Neither of us had ever gone to one of these campaign stops before, so we were greenhorns. We did manage to get there by 8am, but we could see by the crowd, that was not nearly early enough.

After waiting for a long time to get through security, something I should have anticipated, we finally were allowed through. Unfortunately, we were on the north side of the podium--the wrong side of town. We did have an excellent view of the backside of the press bleachers though! (Photo courtesy of another attendee.)

From JSOnline: Police said there were at least 12,500 who were admitted to the secure area and another 5,000 who did not fit.

The rumor was that when this Cedarburg stop was originally set up, they were expecting a crowd of 2,000. I think there is little doubt about what Palin and the convention has done for the ticket. (I think many people saw a new side to John McCain through his convention speech.)

Whitney Clapper sang the National Anthem and did an outstanding job. Dr. Ferry from Concorida University provided the invocation--not just some wimpy little generic prayer, this was a meaty prayer. (I should have taken notes but my eyes were closed.)

We could hear the speakers fine; we just could not see a thing. While Congressman Sensenbrenner was speaking, the guards permitted a crowd of attendees to flood the street, allowing them to get much closer to the bleachers, while we were kept back on the sidewalks. Many started booing near me. Poor Sensenbrenner! The boos quickly died down when the sidewalk crowd realized the street group could see no better.

We decided that we might as well leave our spot to see if we could get a better glimpse on the south side of the crowd. The guard informed us we would have to go through security on the other end of main street if we left, but we really did not care. It was pretty worthless where we were.

It was an interesting walk down the alley to the east of the main street.We could see the news vans,.sign distribution area (picked up a few), campaign "stuff" vendors, and of course...protesters.

 
I purchased a fabulous pin, featuring Lincoln (birth of the Republican party), Reagan, and now McCain.


We then headed to Tomasos Pizza where we could watch the coverage on the TV screen. There we met William, who told us he was right up front! He showed us some of his pictures on his camera and promised to email. (Many on the slideshow are courtesy of Bill and another friend.)
                                                                                                       Other people on the street had various signs, McCain face cut-outs, and some had elephant shaped auction paddle style signs. The paddles we learned were courtesy of John Murphy (left) of Mequon's BetterBidders auction paddle company. We met up with him later and he told us a similar pair, from the 2004 election, now resides in the Smithsonian! 

The crowd was very up-beat, despite 1,000s being turned away. People were friendly and ready to share or trade their McCain/Palin goodies. Even though we were not able to see the candidates for ourself, it still was a fun experience. The weather was great and the mood even better.

No doubt about it, the Republicans are energized!

 

Bits and pieces

A funny tid-bit:

"After speaking, McCain and Palin ducked into The Chocolate Factory to greet people. "I've got to get the moose tracks, please," said Palin at the counter. "Moose tracks, you know, near and dear to my heart. I can't go wrong with it." She was given a waffle cone with a giant scoop. McCain ordered sorbet; Cindy McCain ordered a brownie.

Interesting note: When an important person is in town, such as the president of the United States or presidential candidate, don't count on going to Froedert hospital's emergency room without calling first. Friday they diverted patients to other hospitals while the VIP were in town. (Learned this by experience.)

What to, and not to bring: My advice is that it is best to think of these events in terms of airport security. While waiting in line to pass through security, we heard you needed ID (didn't.) Also heard umbrellas were a no-no, so were American flags if the stick was too long. I think beverages were out too. Weapons of course are verboten and I think a scissors, letter opener, pocket knife, or anything else the guard might think could be used to hurt someone. The guard next to us was ripping the flags off the sticks and keeping the sticks, but my guard let me take mine in. My very short collapsible umbrella was OK (they did feel it though.)

Favorite homemade sign: This lady told us she came all the way from Tennessee!

 

Please, comment content should relate to the subject of the post.

Links: Lots more pictures on my McCain Slideshow 

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Brookfield7, Fairly Conservative, Betterbrookfield, Mark Levin,  Vicki Mckenna

Comments

My Two Cents   

Thanks for the coverage, Kyle.  We managed to get in, and were really fired up.  McCain/Palin drew this many supporters without having a rock band or celeb to draw a crowd.  I liked the "read my lipstick" sign I saw.  

Kyle's reply: Good point about not needing the band. Wish I would have seen the lipstick sign. I like that one! 

September 7, 2008 11:14 AM

contrarian   

So how did Gov. Palin's Q&A with local media go?  Haven't heard much about it.....

Kyle's reply: Sorry, I don't know...I was not home for most of the day and did not turn on the TV or radio all weekend. 

September 7, 2008 5:43 PM

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September 7, 2008 9:58 PM

Practically Speaking   

Contrarian, and here I thought you were trying to be friendly. Instead you just wanted to rant again on an unrelated subject. 

In case you did not notice, I stipulated that comments should relate to the posted subject matter, which in this case was a campaign stop in Cedarburg. I will not be publishing your latest comments.

September 7, 2008 11:22 PM

Cindy   

Do you think we could ask them to come back after I get home? It would have been fun to be with you and My Two Cents.

Thanks for the details. I was surprised to learn the crowd was limited and many were turned away.

September 8, 2008 12:32 AM

contrarian   

All I said was that she didn't speak to the media in Cederburg, just like she avoids media everywhere else.  Off the point, or just too uncomfortable?  Is "friendly" a requirement for participation, or how about the truth?

Kyle's reply: You may think that is all you said, and had you stated your comment as you did this one, I would have posted it. (As I am doing now.) You managed to make this point in 38 words.

No, "friendly" is not a requirement, but civility is. My mistake was to take your first question at face value--as an honest one. I do not appreciate your "gotcha" style of stating an innocent question and then blasting me later. 

What I don't approve of is you writing a huge laundry list rant (like Mikeyd recently did) and making wild assumptions that because Palin has not spoken to or answered the hard questions with the press yet, that somehow, "this is how we got into an ill-conceived war."  Your unpublished comment totaled 204 words!

I have suggested this before. If you have that much to say, become a blogger yourself. Maybe you and Mikeyd could do it together?

I look forward to Sarah Palin's interviews. I'm betting she won't suggest asthma patients should be given a breathalyser or that she has been in 57 states. ;-)


 

September 8, 2008 7:30 AM

contrarian   

Here is the condensed version of what I wrote--honesty requires that you post this and let your listeners decide.

Sarah Palin hasn't done an unscripted appearance yet.  Word is, she is being prepped, raising the concern that she is unprepared.  John McCain has given up on casual talk with press, he is now more "diciplined" in the Bush mode.  Such exclusion of challenging questions from the press can have disasterous consequences in our democracy, and many think that the war in Iraq is an example of such.

Again, if Palin is a pit bull in lipstick, then she should be able to handle a reporter or two.

Kyle's reply: I can see you are trying, Contrarian, but you just couldn't resist the dig about my honesty? This comment was much better in terms of length and overall tone. It is still off the subject of my experience at the Cedarburg campaign stop, however.

You are making some pretty wild assumptions as to Palin's inability to speak off script. In addition, your ascribing disastrous consequences to excluding challenging questions from the press is a reach.

Since Palin has agreed to do an interview with ABC at the end of the week, I think it silly to even be having this argument, since time will tell. I am not worried about her performance as long as the questions are fair. (Something the mainstream media is NOT known for--just ask Hillary.)  MSNBC recently demoted anchors Olbermann and Matthews because they could not keep their opinions to themselves.

FYI, I don't have listeners, I have readers. Plus, here is a tip: If you use Firefox as your browser, it will automatically run spell check for you. 

 

 

September 8, 2008 2:10 PM

My Two Cents   

I don't get Contrarian's point about Gov. Palin doing interviews.  Obama was afraid to do interviews with Fox News for, what, 19 months?  I guess he was being prepped.  If he can't do Fox interviews, how will he negotiate with hostile world leaders?  We've seen how Obama does when he's "unscripted."  He fills in with a lot of "ahh's, uhmm's and you knows" while he's trying to remember what he was told to say. Should we talk about challenging questions posed to Obama from his cheerleading press?  There aren't any!  

September 9, 2008 7:03 PM

contrarian   

I hope you saw the AP report on the Palin/McCain campaign.  news.aol.com/.../167518

Turns out, her Cedarburg visit was the beginning of a freightening trend.  (So that I pass the Prast standard for relevancy, note that the Wisconsin ice cream shop mentioned in the original post is discussed in the middle of the AP article.)  Not only has Governor Palin avoided the american media, she won't even answer a question from an average American citizen.  Her stump speech is a rerun of her convention speech.  

Note that she was introduced to America about 65 days before the election.  If she begins full access this weekend (which seems unlikely), she will still have sequestered herself for over 20% of the time from introduction to election.  On the other hand, we have had over a year and a half of campaigning to watch Obama, McCain, and others rise and fall, win some, loose some, inspire and misspeak.

Shameful.  She wants to be VP, but she can't, or won't have a conversation with America.

Kyle's reply: No, I did not see it, but just read it. Rehashing speeches is something they all do:

"To be sure, all candidates running for office give the same remarks over and over — Barack Obama's stump speech has hardly changed throughout the campaign, and McCain has been telling familiar stories and jokes for months. 
I guess I find your obsession with her a little puzzling. If she is the dolt you insist she is, then the whole nation will know that by this weekend. 
 
Obama has been running for President for a long time--some would say ever since he made the speech at the 2004 convention. Biden has been on the campaign trail numerous times. McCain is no novice to presidential politics. She is.
 
I think it is perfectly understandable that it might take her a week to get into the rhythm of campaigning and questions.  Plus, did you ever consider that she is being told not to speak to reporters? It does create more interest in her, doesn't it.
 
Your beef seems to be more with the process. The VPs for both candidates were announced very near to their respective conventions. Don't go blaming her for that!
It is not her fault that she is not known to you. She is granting the interview this week. The American public can decide for themselves!
 
The press and media have attacked her in a way that they have done to no other candidate. Everything from her hair to clothing, being a working mother, and a whole host of lies about her that have been proved false. 
 
I am declaring this topic finished now for you, since she will be speaking out this week and the subject will be moot. 

 

 

September 9, 2008 10:44 PM

contrarian   

Kyle, odd that you chose to not include my response to My Two Cents, even though it was directed at me, and I answered it directly.  Is your behavior fair?

Kyle's reply: Contrarian, (you certainly picked an appropriate moniker!) I did not post your 182 word comment rebuttal to Two Cents because it was basically the same as your others.

Since I have posted 4 comments (331 words) out of your last 7 comments (a total of 910 words) on this one posting/subject, not counting this one, yes, I do think I am being fair. Rehashing the same info over and over again does not merit posting in my opinion. 

By the way, as our editor probably explained to you when you complained about being excluded, blog policy is that they encourage bloggers to post comments, but it is not mandatory. I do post over 99% of reader comments. 

If you feel compelled to say more, you might want to use this name on your blog,  Contrarily Speaking. :)

September 10, 2008 6:39 PM

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